tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post2546581810055963139..comments2024-03-28T13:48:19.009-04:00Comments on Doug Ross @ Journal: Reagan and Levin drop science on Rand Paul, Mike Shedlock, and the rest of the isolationist war-mongersUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-77800269254959978172014-04-20T06:47:58.159-04:002014-04-20T06:47:58.159-04:00Last comment (at 12:25am) nailed it!Last comment (at 12:25am) nailed it!Roarknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-39473133617887325222014-04-20T00:25:17.382-04:002014-04-20T00:25:17.382-04:00This is not the 30s. Putin is not Hitler. This i...This is not the 30s. Putin is not Hitler. This is not about Obama.<br /><br />There is a narcissistic tendency in American foreign policy. Everything is about us and everyone else will perceive our actions in the same way we do. That's not strategy, it's navel gazing.<br /><br />Putin is pushing back against the Western attempt to draw the states of the former Soviet Union into the European political/economic system (EU/NATO). Russian history makes his actions completely understandable and not nearly as ominous as you would suggest.<br /><br />Does that mean it's a good thing for Ukraine? Of course not. Ukraine is in the unenviable position of being the new Poland: stuck in the middle between two powers contesting for influence and control. The mistake we made in the 90s and 2000s was to make the Ukrainians believe that wasn't the case.<br /><br />Russia has legitimate security interests (to say nothing of cultural ones) in Ukraine. In a world where American foreign policy makers actually thought before they took action, we would never have even suggested that Ukraine might be admitted to NATO or the EU. Instead, we would have made abundantly clear that our only interests were in the territorial integrity of Ukraine and the maintenance of a free society. In foreign policy it would be Finlandized to use the Cold War term. Because we did not define limited, attainable goals we now find ourselves in the current situation.<br /><br />I'm no fan of Obama, but if you want to see who is responsible (to the extent any American president is) for all of this, you need to look at Bill Clinton and George W. Bush.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-18417204255546274052014-04-19T16:57:38.039-04:002014-04-19T16:57:38.039-04:00Our Global Corporate Mercenary Forces must be kept...Our Global Corporate Mercenary Forces must be kept strong to make the world safe for Transnational Corporations.Roarknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-56834777199361479862014-04-19T16:06:34.737-04:002014-04-19T16:06:34.737-04:00Who's ever advocated an invasion?
I'm tal...Who's ever advocated an invasion?<br /><br />I'm talking total destruction of the Iranian nuclear program. <br /><br />The Islamonazis have stated categorically that (a) they are at war with us; (b) they intend to develop nuclear weapons; and (c) they will use them to destroy the U.S. and Israel -- the Satan brothers.<br /><br />I wouldn't hesitate to level those bastards.<br /><br />Not a foot on the ground needed.<br /><br />directorbluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00205733284944340787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-21291603660398348132014-04-19T13:13:39.123-04:002014-04-19T13:13:39.123-04:00anyPeople are war weary after Iraq/Afghanistan. It...anyPeople are war weary after Iraq/Afghanistan. It meant nothing...all the deaths, costs, altered lives. Sending troops into Poland, getting involved even via NATO is not resolve nor in our interests. Frankly, let NATO sans the U.S. fend for itself for once...aged continent or not. I agree sometimes R.P. or a Buchanan are a bit off kilter, but this old hawk is tired of sacrificing our youth's blood. Not one boy died in the Middle East to make me safer...judging by the activity of CAIR within our borders now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-45844941654330945782014-04-19T13:05:21.039-04:002014-04-19T13:05:21.039-04:00"Statements like this," Doug? Senator Pa..."Statements like this," Doug? Senator Paul is being a realist. He knows there's absolutely no chance that the nation will accept American involvement in yet another Middle East war, even with A Republican Senate majority and a Republican president in the White House. If that's the case -- and I agree with Senator Paul that it is -- then a non-invasion option must be considered. Economic sanctions may prove to be insufficient, no matter how harsh. So containment, in the sense of a ring of states and bases vigilantly ready to counteract any aggressive move by the mad mullahs, is something to be considered seriously.<br /><br />Is a containment strategy the best of all possible outcomes? Of course not. But if we assume that an invasion and the decapitation of the ruling Iranian regime is not politically possible, then it might just be the best of the options remaining.Francis W. Porrettohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05862584203772592282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-11590748812537858692014-04-19T11:41:33.662-04:002014-04-19T11:41:33.662-04:00Steve, I like Rand Paul, but statements like this ...Steve, I like Rand Paul, but <a href="http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/04/13/rand-paul-dont-dismiss-containment-option-for-nuclear-iran/" rel="nofollow"><b>statements like this</b></a> are very ominous.<br /><br />directorbluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00205733284944340787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-84927650760495679582014-04-19T11:24:54.496-04:002014-04-19T11:24:54.496-04:00Rand Paul has advocated taking almost identical ac...Rand Paul has advocated taking almost identical action in Ukraine as every other Republican. He advocates increasing the defense budget. The budget he submitted last year actually restored the sequester cuts. He is for maintaining military bases throughout the world. <br /><br />Equating Ron Paul and Rand Paul as identical is dishonest. They are directionally similar but there are major, major differences that make one a reasonable choice and one an unreasonable choice.Stevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-43015235339262134892014-04-19T11:24:19.228-04:002014-04-19T11:24:19.228-04:00Rand Paul has advocated taking almost identical ac...Rand Paul has advocated taking almost identical action in Ukraine as every other Republican. He advocates increasing the defense budget. The budget he submitted last year actually restored the sequester cuts. He is for maintaining military bases throughout the world. <br /><br />Equating Ron Paul and Rand Paul as identical is dishonest. They are directionally similar but there are major, major differences that make one a reasonable choice and one an unreasonable choice.Stevenoreply@blogger.com