tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post1228102362423922470..comments2024-03-29T10:10:39.398-04:00Comments on Doug Ross @ Journal: Pelosi's Children and Grandchildren Used Military Jets As Cross-Country Shuttle Service So They Could Avoid Dealing With the RabbleUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger65125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-76106773042412379092010-02-23T02:56:03.988-05:002010-02-23T02:56:03.988-05:00I'm very thankful to the author for posting su...I'm very thankful to the author for posting such an amazing development post. Continuing to the post, This is a fantastic survey, very nice write up,Thanks you for sharing.College Research Papershttp://www.flashpapers.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-58666342826594938722010-02-19T08:16:07.340-05:002010-02-19T08:16:07.340-05:00Why can this stealing and wasteful spending by Pel...Why can this stealing and wasteful spending by Pelosi be brought up to the President in the next White House press meeting? I would liek some answers.<br />If I stop paying taxes until the wasteful spending stop, I would be put in jail, but yet it's ok for WDC to keep steeling our money! Who can we contact?? I tried contacting Peloai's office, but of course they do not want to hear from you.Neatnichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13965555778218250384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-37403828049922388702010-02-11T11:23:09.528-05:002010-02-11T11:23:09.528-05:00There BS and then there are facts. See this: htt...There BS and then there are facts. See this: http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp<br /><br />I don't care for Pelosi but smears don't cut it in my book and this is just a smear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-16035676872450680392010-02-04T08:14:00.353-05:002010-02-04T08:14:00.353-05:00I find it funny that the amount reimbursed is $200...I find it funny that the amount reimbursed is $200. Since when can you fly from SF to DC nonstop for that price? I fly a lot and it isn't that cheap. As for Bush's use of an aircraft to go to Crawford he isn't President anymore. Kick Pelosi out and we wont complain about her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-53146680546123946832010-02-02T21:06:43.319-05:002010-02-02T21:06:43.319-05:00Can't Understand Nancey's Thinking
Cost U...Can't Understand Nancey's Thinking<br /><br />Cost Us Noney Too<br /><br />Did I misspell Money, well I had to or the acronym wouldn't work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-23695242002210022582010-02-02T14:21:17.566-05:002010-02-02T14:21:17.566-05:00C'mon, folks, quit arguing that this is Space-...C'mon, folks, quit arguing that this is Space-A travel. It isn't. If you look at 4515.13R, it includes a table of "Eligible Space-Available Travelers" - and Congressional spouses/family aren't listed. In fact, neither are Members of Congress; they don't get Space-A either!<br /><br />4515.13R covers Space-A,but it also covers several other means of military air transportation, including those "Special Actions and Procedures" (Chapter 10) used by Congresscritters.<br /><br />pgoody, both directive authorize military travel for Members of Congress and their families; however, they refer to different circustances for said travel. That's why some requests are filed under 4515.12 and others under 4515.13R. It wasn't cited "in error."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-86692036849684107612010-02-02T12:33:52.418-05:002010-02-02T12:33:52.418-05:00The real story since the documents show travel is ...The real story since the documents show travel is reimbursable is did she or her family pay it back? This is the kind of story that hurts the conservative blogs and the conservative side of the isle when folks who trust this blog as a source believe it repeat what amounts to as "reported" a half truth or inuendo... Some follow up is necessary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-19139607605406686052010-02-02T04:25:07.000-05:002010-02-02T04:25:07.000-05:00So sad! Poor Children!
http://www.247jet.comSo sad! Poor Children!<br /><br />http://www.247jet.comVersatilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02114641528656341722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-80294770341272944942010-02-02T01:58:46.927-05:002010-02-02T01:58:46.927-05:00I am outraged! Any abuse of power by politicians f...I am outraged! Any abuse of power by politicians for their personal benefit should be scrunitized by all true Americans and Patriots to this country. So I would be happy with seeing the Speaker pay the price in full for these flights. That being said the same goes for Bush, he owes America billions from the unjust and expensive invasion of Iraq - so when he pays then Pelosi does - after all his tab is quite a bit higher right? So get mad at all abuse not just the ones which fit your worldview or political leaningsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-85509881906313266082010-02-01T16:46:36.596-05:002010-02-01T16:46:36.596-05:00fyi,
DoD 4515.12p governs use of military aircraft...fyi,<br />DoD 4515.12p governs use of military aircraft for members of congress and references the ASD(LA) letter dated February 7, 2007, to the Speaker of the House regarding policy<br />guidance on Speaker Shuttle airlift support.<br /><br />Dod 4500.56p includes guidelines for SoD and other required use travelersUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07925769871676833078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-74585437340510913882010-02-01T16:33:05.668-05:002010-02-01T16:33:05.668-05:00These requests are not for separate flights nor ar...These requests are not for separate flights nor are they Space A requests. They are requests to allow family members fly with the Speaker aboard her shuttle.<br /><br />Since 9/11, the Speaker has been provided military transport referred to as the Speaker Shuttle. This was apparently authorized by White House memorandum with specific guidelines also detailed in a letter from the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Legislative Affairs. I couldn't find either of these documents online, but the details are summarized in this story:<br /><br />http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/national_world&id=5014655<br /><br />The fact that she is allowed to bring family members implies that she is required to use military transport (similarly to the Vice President and Secretary of Defense) Can't know without seeing the actual docs.<br /><br />DoD 4515.13R was apparently cited in error -- as members of Congress don't fall under that directive and nondependent family members aren't eligible to fly Space A under any circumstance.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07925769871676833078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-77772882225220273232010-02-01T16:09:16.736-05:002010-02-01T16:09:16.736-05:00Nancy's grown children are not her dependents,...Nancy's grown children are not her dependents, so they would not be eligible.TonyAverrsanonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-9500079642477506282010-02-01T15:54:47.988-05:002010-02-01T15:54:47.988-05:00According to DoD Directive 4515.13 (Google it - it...According to DoD Directive 4515.13 (Google it - it's out there), <br /><br />"C10.5.2.2. Dependents of members of the Congress and employees of the Congress, to permit them to accompany their principal in the 50 United States when essential to the proper accomplishment of the mission, desirable because of diplomatic or public relations, or necessary for the health of the individuals concerned. When<br />reimbursement is appropriate, it shall be at the same rate as applicable to the principal."<br /><br />So, taking this at face value...if the Speaker is invited to some bring-your-spouse official event, her husband can go military air to join her. If she's participating in some family event, her family can go military air to join her. The grandson might be pushing it, depending on his age and the nature of the event.<br /><br />Complain about the regs, if you like, but attacking Pelosi for doing something to which she is specifically entitled strikes me as a rather substance-free attack.<br /><br />(If you want real fun, point out that this also applies to EMPLOYEES of Congress; their families can go military air to join them for Family Day, or whatever "official business" might require their presence. That's an audience far larger than 535...)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-44567659701959372632010-02-01T15:31:33.246-05:002010-02-01T15:31:33.246-05:00Help educate young people considering service in t...Help educate young people considering service in the U.S. military about the vast disparity that exists between the true lifestyle of a U.S. Soldier and the lifestyle they will see portrayed in Army ads, recruiting offices, sponsorships, and video games. Today's U.S. Army is broken- relying on moral conduct waivers to maintain enlistment numbers while barracks fall into further disrepair, suicides skyrocket and stop-lossed troops see their fourth, fifth and sixth tours. Support http://www.CAMMMO.orgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-5040109476384453242010-02-01T15:27:38.088-05:002010-02-01T15:27:38.088-05:00RE: At 12:47 PM - President Ordering Speaker to us...RE: At 12:47 PM - President Ordering Speaker to use secure Military Travel.<br /><br />When did Bush care what he was authorized to do? Simple answer to that question - Executive Order.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-71601773459298000512010-02-01T15:06:51.420-05:002010-02-01T15:06:51.420-05:00More of the same, the 30 Nov 08 travel (the Nov 25...More of the same, the 30 Nov 08 travel (the Nov 25th request) included Speaker Pelosi along with her daughter and the Voses (Docs-18.pdf p.11). The same goes for the 22 Feb 07 travel (Docs-18.pdf p.64). So far every one I've checked had the Speaker aboard. Sorry, but I think you're reading these wrong.Cecil Turnernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-87725196977551812412010-02-01T14:59:18.859-05:002010-02-01T14:59:18.859-05:00Pelosi's head ought to be on a pike outside th...Pelosi's head ought to be on a pike outside the capitol. The same is true for most of the other 535 tyrants in there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-50223070233313961612010-02-01T14:55:06.675-05:002010-02-01T14:55:06.675-05:00One more thing- these pigs have been helping thems...One more thing- these pigs have been helping themselves to the trough for years. I know an Air Force general who sent a Lear jet to the east coast from NM one year just to collect his daughter from college so she could make it home in time for turkey when she couldn't find a commmercial flight.Clairenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-53703031846580268512010-02-01T14:45:09.089-05:002010-02-01T14:45:09.089-05:00The official business for Pelosi's son might b...The official business for Pelosi's son might be to secure funding for the new green technology "algae for oil" in southern New Mexico that he is involved in and so much Fed money is pouring into. Conflict of interest? Cap and Trade? Noooooo, not the Pelosi's- say it ain't so!!!Clairenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-13690878032421633102010-02-01T14:40:49.032-05:002010-02-01T14:40:49.032-05:00I could only track down two of these quickly, but ...I could only track down two of these quickly, but the June 15th, 2007, and July 9th, 2007 flights were both carrying the Speaker and her son (and others). The authorization to fly letter does make it look like it's for Paul Jr. alone, but if you look at the travel request (Docs-19.pdf p.61 and Docs-20.pdf p.10), it's obvious he's part of a group.<br /><br />That's obviously a whole lot less egregious, and not "sole travel needs" as claimed above. I'd like to look over each flight, if you've got the footnotes handy, but so far I can't confirm much "there" there.Cecil Turnernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-65084839152343889122010-02-01T14:26:07.018-05:002010-02-01T14:26:07.018-05:00Thanks for the expose' Doug Ross. I am a value...Thanks for the expose' Doug Ross. I am a valued member of Team Obama, on a national security field assignment and I was <a href="http://www.michellesmirror.com/2010/01/sundance-its-wrap.html" rel="nofollow">bumped to commercial.</a> <br />Keep up the good investigative work, but could you cut my boss some slack?<br /><br />You're a peach.<br /><br />Hugs, <br />MOTUSMOTUShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04175268073346317446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-5832080966343461732010-02-01T14:11:21.998-05:002010-02-01T14:11:21.998-05:00Dude! Are your ears burning? Rush is talking about...Dude! Are your ears burning? Rush is talking about this report, naming your blog twice, right now.Nice Debhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18109470371453251485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-82823644120867180582010-02-01T14:10:13.096-05:002010-02-01T14:10:13.096-05:00OK, LET'S SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT.
1. This st...OK, LET'S SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT.<br /><br />1. This story is almost A YEAR OLD! http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/10/pelosi-repeated-requests-military-aircraft-documents/<br /><br />2. This <b>IS</b> Space A travel. You see how every document ends with the line "Authority DOD 4515.13R"? That is the regulation dealing with Space A travel. These flights are NOT chartered for her family, they are space on already scheduled flights reserved for her family in accordance with Space A military regulations.<br /><br />3. Space A flight is normally reserved for Military only, but after 9/11 the Bush Admin granted the House Speaker (then Republican Hastert) the ability to fly Space A.<br /><br />THIS IS A 1 YEAR OLD NON-STORY. Thanks.Joshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17385835792220075074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-58485641013587755072010-02-01T13:38:25.452-05:002010-02-01T13:38:25.452-05:00This is the most corrupt, inept, and political Con...This is the most corrupt, inept, and political Congress and Administration in history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-29308626285792573912010-02-01T13:35:46.697-05:002010-02-01T13:35:46.697-05:00We live in a very divided two class system.
The ...We live in a very divided two class system. <br /><br />The elite class and public class.<br /><br />The elites can commandeer private, military jets at a whim too rush around and govern the public class.<br /><br />Meanwhile, the service personnel in the public class are forced too spend months overseas away from their loved ones fighting the elites war games separated from children and spouses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com