tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post223173232198771357..comments2024-03-29T10:10:39.398-04:00Comments on Doug Ross @ Journal: Obama's "tough budget cuts" in picturesUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-42833847080151991272011-02-28T17:37:56.922-05:002011-02-28T17:37:56.922-05:00@anon 8:04 You do realize that the wars are now in...@anon 8:04 You do realize that the wars are now included in the deficit, where they weren't under Bush's watch, right?<br /><br />Do all right-wing extremists really believe that Obama created this deficit on his own? Last time I checked, Presidents inherit deficits. I'm amazed by some of the stupidity on here. Makes it embarrassing to admit that I'm a Republican. There's reality and fantasy. All the mumbo jumbo being thrown by both parties serves one interest and one interest only: I do and say so I can get re-elected. End of story. Throw enough mud, the nut jobs on either side will get riled up. Reality is always much different, and this isn't a good reality no matter which side you're on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-70424129830918584712011-02-15T18:09:31.389-05:002011-02-15T18:09:31.389-05:00So if my math is right, that's like saying,
&...So if my math is right, that's like saying,<br /><br />"I make $60,000 a year, but I'm spending $100,000 a year. I'll just cut $20 from my expenses and everything will be cool."<br /><br />Is that correct?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01685644619294115148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-27114579272765314082011-02-12T16:30:39.914-05:002011-02-12T16:30:39.914-05:00Ush - I was embarrassed to realise that my comment...Ush - I was embarrassed to realise that my comment about getting the numbers wrong was mistaken. I'd confused trillions with billions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-28189924149477877052011-02-12T12:04:28.809-05:002011-02-12T12:04:28.809-05:00He wants to break us. He wants us to NEED the glob...He wants to break us. He wants us to NEED the global community, so we will no longer have the protection of the Constitution, or any vestiges of what gives us the freedom to be independent states and independent individuals. <br /><br />AND I couldn't agree more, there is no longer a moderate Dem.<br /><br />Minorcan MavenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-71976907003747464102011-02-11T20:11:49.914-05:002011-02-11T20:11:49.914-05:00"Cut every departmental budget by 10% as a st..."Cut every departmental budget by 10% as a start across the board. Each dept can decide how to do it."<br /><br />The fun part of that is state departments are so bound up in obligations to things like state unions that they won't be able to make cuts and will instead go bankrupt. It will be a case of departments telling their employees "sorry we can't pay you because there is no money". It's already happening.<br /><br />It has to happen, it'll happen anyway, and it'll ultimately be a healthy process, because the reason we're in this mess is that every one of these managers all the way up from the tiniest department right up to Obama himself, got us into this mess because they don't have the first clue what "money" is or how to manage it.<br /><br />The Republic is set to have one huge ugly learning experience. We all have to learn again from scratch what it means to "manage money".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-41620175174565897312011-02-11T20:06:18.442-05:002011-02-11T20:06:18.442-05:00@Anon 12:18 "You have made a mistake with you...@Anon 12:18 "You have made a mistake with your numbers. In the US, a trillion is 1000 million"<br /><br />Sigh .. if this represents the level of education of the voting public then there is no hope.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-22859441785556850052011-02-11T20:04:30.979-05:002011-02-11T20:04:30.979-05:00@Anon 2:33 : "the most recent President who b...@Anon 2:33 : "the most recent President who balanced the budget and even produced a modest surplus. Hmmm, who was that? Did you guess Bill Clinton"<br /><br />Ummm, that's nice, but last I checked, Bill Clinton hasn't been in power for quite some, isn't running in the next election, and it is the current Democrats running the biggest deficit ever, so how does that help us?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-75031582776199787212011-02-11T00:18:49.980-05:002011-02-11T00:18:49.980-05:00You have made a mistake with your numbers. In the ...You have made a mistake with your numbers. In the US, a trillion is 1000 million (not 1000000 million) , so the budget cuts are a little over 50% of the annual deficit (according to your figures).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-329145024880272442011-02-10T23:11:21.785-05:002011-02-10T23:11:21.785-05:00For Datou, who complained about Democrats replying...For Datou, who complained about Democrats replying anonymously: it's probably because we don't want to end up on some database because we registered with Google, just in case the Republicans take over again and start pulling more of our rights away from us. Bush 43 did more to destroy fundamental American rights than all the Presidents before him with the possible exception of A. Lincoln.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-77872165837917206612011-02-10T22:34:02.224-05:002011-02-10T22:34:02.224-05:00I liked this illustration better...
http://www.yo...I liked this illustration better...<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWt8hTayupEAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-48313007593430042772011-02-10T15:04:41.434-05:002011-02-10T15:04:41.434-05:00Simple solution: No county should get in tax suppo...Simple solution: No county should get in tax support greater than it gives up in taxes rendered. That should clear the budget deficit in no time. With the added bonus of all those who gripe about being over taxed shutting up.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15102415851571442576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-75438988170265820352011-02-10T15:00:09.796-05:002011-02-10T15:00:09.796-05:00To be fair, if you zoomed even more, those cuts wo...To be fair, if you zoomed even more, those cuts would appear to be a lot larger.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-68817309845042124612011-02-10T13:47:10.129-05:002011-02-10T13:47:10.129-05:00For a clearer understanding, move the decimal poin...For a clearer understanding, move the decimal point to remove a lot of zeros. It's rather like deciding that your food budget for the year will be $3,800. But, in order to buy that much food, you have to put $1,500 on your credit card. So, you decide to NOT buy ONE 78 cent candy bar, in order to save money. That Obama is a genius!Carl R - Grand Rapidsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-31731552716042705592011-02-10T12:26:16.502-05:002011-02-10T12:26:16.502-05:00Here we see again the standard Democrat budget cut...Here we see again the standard Democrat budget cut strategy. Cut something which will immediately elicit howls of outrage. Jon Corzine was a master at it here in NJ. Each fiscal year the first thing he'd "cut" on July 1 was state parks. Yup, he'd close the beaches on the Fourth of July. And presto!, the outrage was unanimous, and his "cuts" were restored.<br /><br />Let's not fall for Obama pulling the same trick.Chris Wysockihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08108985245945494645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-18127733436853331772011-02-10T11:46:57.060-05:002011-02-10T11:46:57.060-05:00They distort the situation for political gain - bo...They distort the situation for political gain - both parties. It's not about what programs to stop or cut. EVERYTHING must be cut. Cut every departmental budget by 10% as a start across the board. Each dept can decide how to do it. That is what private sector has to do!marismanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16071244875932816597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-90791876342432421502011-02-10T10:17:59.441-05:002011-02-10T10:17:59.441-05:00It's kind of sad we have a HUGE problem like t...It's kind of sad we have a HUGE problem like this, yet House Republicans are trying to ram through the liberty killing PATRIOT act again. Give me a break GOP.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-79068660921076160082011-02-10T09:19:46.177-05:002011-02-10T09:19:46.177-05:00Your chart is actually wrong - it's much worse...Your chart is actually wrong - it's much worse.<br /><br />You've separated the "total budget"(blue) and the "deficit"(red). The "deficit" should be a fraction of the whole - meaning the blue part should only be the portion of the budget NOT requiring debt.<br /><br />So in fact, your chart numbers should be: "budget" ($3.8 trillion - whole pie) = "normal spending" ($2.3 trillion - blue) + "deficit spending" ($1.5 trillion - red) + "obama's cuts" ($775 million - green).<br /><br />It actually is much worse than your graph shows.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-59881583549157959852011-02-10T08:59:29.765-05:002011-02-10T08:59:29.765-05:002/3 of the federal budget is transfer payments. T...2/3 of the federal budget is transfer payments. That's where they take the money out of your wallet, and GIVE it to some person or business that they think deserves it more than you, and you GET NOTHING in return. You don't get a new road, bridge, tank, fighter jet, etc. You worked, someone else got paid. This is done because it buys votes.<br /><br />The budget will not be balanced, and the debt retired, until this practice is recognized as being unconstitutional (in addition to being immoral).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-43447015027912615292011-02-10T04:01:29.533-05:002011-02-10T04:01:29.533-05:00Funny how most of the brave commenters defending D...Funny how most of the brave commenters defending Democrats do so anonymously... Bill Clinton had a balanced budget because he had to deal with a Republican led Congress. To his credit he knew how to deal. Newsflash: Congress is where the budgets are written. As we speak 80% of the Republicans in Congress are total slime mouthing the words and lining their pockets. 100% of the Democrats have proven they are worse. The Dems in Congress during Clinton look like Tea Partiers compared to the anti-American marxists in power now. Liberals only care about placing blame and pointing fingers. The problem is that we need to wipe the board clean and smack some new thinking into the DC beltway mindset. YES eliminate all the alphabet agencies unless absolutely necessary, let States go bankrupt and start wiping out and outlawing government unions and the unfunded liabilities that come with them.Datouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12947500890832694292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-31575536514058458272011-02-10T02:33:30.401-05:002011-02-10T02:33:30.401-05:00Oh yeah, eliminate all the Democrats and forget th...Oh yeah, eliminate all the Democrats and forget the most recent (back to 1901) President who balanced the budget and even produced a modest surplus. Hmmm, who was that? Did you guess Bill Clinton--four times? DING DING DING, you win! Before that? Other Democratic Presidents did it also: Lyndon Johnson, Harry Truman and Woodrow Wilson, also Democrats as you may recall. To be fair, some Republicans have done it also in that time period: McKinley, T. Roosevelt, Taft, Harding, Coolidge, Hoover, and Eisenhower. You will note that if you correlate the years with wars, the Democrats were responsible for the budgets during WWI, WWII, Korea, and part of Vietnam. Those numbers ARE included in the chart below, when we ran deficits to finance the wars.<br /><br />When was the last time the budget was balanced AND we had no national debt? Yes, that famous Democratic President Andrew Jackson did it in the 1830s. See a trend here? Yes, of course, you, will see, contrary to the evidence, that Republicans are *always* fiscally responsible and Democrats just don't seem to care. We only have to look at history to know that we can trust the country to Republicans according to you.<br /><br />Here's a little summary you should probably study carefully using that data from 1901 through 2009 budgets (millions of dollars, and the colums probably won't line up properly):<br /><br /><br /> Rep Dem Total<br /># Budgets 61 48 109<br />$ Budgets -$6,273,670 -$487,539 -$6,761,209<br />Avg Budget -$102,847 -$10,157 -$62,029<br /># Defecits 42 36 78<br />$ Defecits -$6,289,204 -$1,073,482 -$7,362,686<br />Avg Defecit -$149,743 -$29,819 -$94,393<br /># Surpluses 19 12 31<br />$ Surpluses $15,534 $585,943 $601,477<br />Avg Surplus $818 $48,829 $19,402<br /><br /><br />You may notice that the average Dem surplus is about 2 1/2 times the average, and over 50 times the Rep average surpluses. Similarly, in looking at the other side of the coin and examining deficits, Dems about 1/7 of average and about 1/6 the average of the Reps. These numbers all come from an official US Government website, so you can't say I'm skewing the numbers to present "my" side of this.<br /><br />Source: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2011/assets/hist01z1.xls<br /><br /><br />You will probably "poo-poo" this data. I don't care if you're blind, just don't try to put out the eyes of those who can see facts when they are presented.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-12741661585079223182011-02-10T00:57:08.229-05:002011-02-10T00:57:08.229-05:00http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms hmmmmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-45543244983424599422011-02-10T00:48:36.737-05:002011-02-10T00:48:36.737-05:00If the budget is an 8 hr day, 5 days a week for 52...If the budget is an 8 hr day, 5 days a week for 52 weeks - he's just given taxpayers a 25 minute vacation. Gee thanks.<br /><br />Glad to see the house is at $100 billion in cuts but really how hard would have a 5% to 10% across the board cut have been? 2.7% is a start but in the end probably to little to late.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18379011331847919780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-73624227095630584802011-02-09T21:59:26.257-05:002011-02-09T21:59:26.257-05:00What's the point. Let the country crash and b...What's the point. Let the country crash and burn. That's the only fix.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-31300088963539269692011-02-09T17:18:51.162-05:002011-02-09T17:18:51.162-05:00If you Americans really want to have a balanced bu...If you Americans really want to have a balanced budget, then forget trimming all sorts of little government agencies: try cutting social security and medicare. That's where most of your tax dollars go. Little snips in other areas really won't make that much of a difference -- unless you want to get rid of your entire military.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-85213458111247057962011-02-09T15:44:38.850-05:002011-02-09T15:44:38.850-05:00(golf clap)(golf clap)Noah Bawdy™https://www.blogger.com/profile/17914036166812667667noreply@blogger.com