tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post64355331056116510..comments2024-03-29T07:40:28.878-04:00Comments on Doug Ross @ Journal: GRAVITAS: Can Mr. Trump’s Supporters Help Me Understand His 24-hour, 180˚ Turnabout Over the Weekend?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-38371536826820602742016-01-19T17:10:13.678-05:002016-01-19T17:10:13.678-05:00All you guys commenting here haven't figured i...All you guys commenting here haven't figured it out yet.<br />If voting changed anything those running things would make it illegal.<br />They already made it impossible for your vote to count for anything but the illusion your vote counts.<br />Your not voting counts more. Because that is withdrawal of your consent for the con of voting in elections represents your will.<br />Nether Cruz nor Trump will ever sit in the oval office.<br />Those running things will never permit it by popular vote.<br />It is why they are the kind of scum they are and why they are running things to begin with.<br />The sooner all you you guys come to terms with that the sooner you understand your voting for your savoirs is not the answer.<br />Fighting over these two guys is the greatest shiny object imaginable. <br />And your all going to experience serious heartache, and much worse over what happens if you don't wake up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-26686710334388085862016-01-19T09:30:54.323-05:002016-01-19T09:30:54.323-05:00Gee, if you haven't figured it out by now.... ...Gee, if you haven't figured it out by now.... Trump is an idiot. The most insecure man ever.<br /><br />And I'm a NYC repubicansupergonzohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14937222011964690893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-64997498121923574592016-01-19T09:25:44.043-05:002016-01-19T09:25:44.043-05:00By my logic, Trump is not natural born Scottish. H...By my logic, Trump is not natural born Scottish. His mother <b>is</b> a naturalized United States Citizen in the <b>exact</b> same way Ted's mother is a naturalized Canadian.<br />As it stands right now, It looks like Cruz is a Canadian and only Canadian <i>unless</i> he became a naturalized United States Citizen.<br />Since he sealed his record, we cannot be sure what he has to hide. Maybe you could enlighten us?<br />I started this election cycle fully in the Cruz camp. The more I learn though, the less I like, and I'm getting most of that information from his public appearances.<br />I am beginning to think he is a puppet of the banks in the same way Barry is a puppet of Soros and Buffet.<br />Have any of your scholars written that the son of a Naturalized Canadian is not a Canadian? he may be an <i>American</i> citizen, but is he a <b>United States</b> Citizen?JeremyRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13692050680065474779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-84638883135556102122016-01-19T09:13:42.989-05:002016-01-19T09:13:42.989-05:00Doug,
You are wasting your time. Having watched m...Doug,<br />You are wasting your time. Having watched my wife have this debate every night on an on-line forum she helps moderate, and I mean every night(!), the Trump-ettes do not have the ability to perform rational and/or logical thought.<br /><br />No mater what is said, whatever the Donald says, his supporters will follow. You can bring up past comments, current comments, positions, people, or anything else official, public or personal. There is always an argument, and the position of the Trumped Up Brigade will always hew to the Donald, and be followed by personal invective.<br /><br />I am sure I will get hammered just for writing this.<br /><br />His misogynistic views are ignored by Trump-ettes as misquotes, or old views or "that isn't what he actually meant" or some completely unbelievable definition of obvious implied comments "bleeding out of wherever..."<br /><br />His New York values are obvious, form his support of Kelo, to his Russert interview from 2007, to pick a tweet that came before his campaign started. He knows it, which is why he hides behind the skirts of 9/11 widows when asked about it.<br /><br />His positions on immigration are laudable, but everything else betrays his love of big government, crony capitalist (of which he is poster child), mainstream liberal democratic values.<br /><br />And this is the part that kills me most, no matter which of these is brought up, Trump-ettes will ignore, distract, and divert. My wife is a keen intellect and very good at debating his supporters, and she buries them with evidence every night, and they still believe it.<br /><br />Cruz is quite simply a natural born citizen. I have never seen evidence that is reliable that his mother is anything but at least a third generation Delawarean (I do ancestry, and went into one of their search engines and found her and traced her family back a couple of generations). However, the Donald has spake the truth to his fellow travelers, therefore, at least for them, it is as if God himself spoke it. There will be nothing you can do to move them off of it, or even understand it. Good question, don't be frustrated by the illogical nature of their response.Ragnar_Danneskjoldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-27389659674170342202016-01-19T07:25:13.226-05:002016-01-19T07:25:13.226-05:00Sure. Though, I bet you're only feigning inno...Sure. Though, I bet you're only feigning innocence/ignorance.<br /><br />TRUMP HIMSELF SAID that he went negative because the polls were tightening.<br />Trump wants to win.<br /><br />GET IT?!?<br /><br />Now, go pretend to get the vapors and cry for someone to get your salts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-37145586138387949592016-01-19T06:32:02.975-05:002016-01-19T06:32:02.975-05:00This all leaves one wondering why, if Trump is so ...This all leaves one wondering why, if Trump is so inevitable, his acolytes seem so desperate right now.teapartydocnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-11086792911028336892016-01-19T06:30:06.334-05:002016-01-19T06:30:06.334-05:00It seems to me there are a lot of opinion-colored ...It seems to me there are a lot of opinion-colored facts out there regarding Mr. Cruz and his eligibility, since there is no court ruling anyone can point to, to definitively settle the matter. That's why the old Texas liberal's suit is important; it may also ensnare Obama, if the truth be known. His mother, you see, was not old enough, nor had lived in the US long enough, to pass citizenship to him. If the law is applied to THAT factoid, can you say "null and void?"<br /><br />Meanwhile, this internecene snit really needs to settle down. It's rather like '12, when Paul supporters...and we got Romney out of that, remember? Martinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-18182377687681967082016-01-19T05:58:56.552-05:002016-01-19T05:58:56.552-05:00By that logic, Trump isn't natural-born either...By that logic, Trump isn't natural-born either. His mother is naturalized Scottish.<br /><br />The whole discussion is insane.<br /><br />There is <a href="http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2016/01/the-cruz-birther-bible-because-trump-is.html" rel="nofollow"><b>no scholar anywhere who has written in a peer-reviewed journal that the son of an American citizen isn't a natural-born citizen</b></a>.<br />directorbluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00205733284944340787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-5525089941109144912016-01-19T00:50:21.957-05:002016-01-19T00:50:21.957-05:00Ted Cruz is the son of a Cuban father, and a Natur...Ted Cruz is the son of a Cuban father, and a <i>Naturalized</i> Canadian mother. She renounced her citizenship prior to his birth and became a Canadian citizen. So, since she was no longer a Citizen of the United States, she had no birth right to pass him. She was an <i>American </i> citizen, but so is my wife who was born in Honduras and has not yet become a U.S. citizen. America is a Continent not a country, actually two Continents and an Isthmus. The United states is a nation, and there in lies the problem.JeremyRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13692050680065474779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-22820221320612247652016-01-18T23:00:46.579-05:002016-01-18T23:00:46.579-05:00I touted Cruz as VP last summer under the Donald, ...I touted Cruz as VP last summer under the Donald, but when he renounced I had to erase him from my varsity team. I would be a hypocrite if I didn't point out his & Rubio's lack of eligibility as I did with Obama. We The People are doing the lamestream media presstitutes' work.Bobbi85710https://www.blogger.com/profile/04298466832439131751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-438283814320656932016-01-18T22:55:57.613-05:002016-01-18T22:55:57.613-05:00'Could it be THAT the attack'.Saw it after...'Could it be THAT the attack'.Saw it after publishing.millard fillmorenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-86400002434356284192016-01-18T22:53:42.630-05:002016-01-18T22:53:42.630-05:00As far as I can tell,Cruz is an American citizen.I...As far as I can tell,Cruz is an American citizen.If he isn't,Obama isn't,so maybe even the democrats will be bright enough to stop pursuing it.Although this may be quite off the wall,I've always thought Trump got into the race on a whim.He goes with his whims,as we've seen with his recent tirades.That it took off was quite possibly a surprise to Donald himself.I think he took a lot of the heat off Cruz,at times making him seem more reasonable and electable by going beyond Cruz's positions.Now I think he's bored with the race.He's either not paying attention to what he's saying,or is looking for a way to bow out,though not exactly gracefully.Nothing could kill his candidacy faster than falling in with the national committee goons,or viciously attacking the most natural V.P. choice among the remaining candidates.Could it be than the attack on Cruz's citizenry is an inoculation against the attacks of a future democrat opponent?I admit it's probably off the wall thinking,but what hasn't been in this campaign?millard fillmorenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-57453179174846280502016-01-18T22:53:27.033-05:002016-01-18T22:53:27.033-05:00Ah when the facts prevail, the name calling begins...Ah when the facts prevail, the name calling begins. Shameful.Bobbi85710https://www.blogger.com/profile/04298466832439131751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-82049901224993188232016-01-18T22:51:14.959-05:002016-01-18T22:51:14.959-05:00Recognized by Ireland, not by US law. I misspoke, ...Recognized by Ireland, not by US law. I misspoke, something you will never admit to. The US recognizes.but doesn't endorse dual or even multiple citizenship. The fact remains, Cruz was natural born citizen of the US at the moment of his birth, just as I was and even you. I bet you didn't even read the link. Otherwise you'd stop with these posts on a subject you know nothing about. I'm not engaging a blind idiot like you further.Lunarmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14242955702244677147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-36538941846451077152016-01-18T22:43:55.418-05:002016-01-18T22:43:55.418-05:00Oh and for good measure... if Ted Cruz did not hav...Oh and for good measure... if Ted Cruz did not have dual to multiple citizenships why did he renounce one recently?Bobbi85710https://www.blogger.com/profile/04298466832439131751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-46442887497492907962016-01-18T22:41:13.602-05:002016-01-18T22:41:13.602-05:00Fact Maureen O'Hara held dual citizenship with...Fact Maureen O'Hara held dual citizenship with the US and her native Ireland. Again just the facts.Bobbi85710https://www.blogger.com/profile/04298466832439131751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-30226321907813799462016-01-18T22:36:51.224-05:002016-01-18T22:36:51.224-05:00And Lunarman... you are not running for President!...And Lunarman... you are not running for President!Bobbi85710https://www.blogger.com/profile/04298466832439131751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-16847741760820395312016-01-18T22:35:04.376-05:002016-01-18T22:35:04.376-05:00Are you truly this obtuse? I was born in Japan. I ...Are you truly this obtuse? I was born in Japan. I didn't even know I had dual citizenship until I enlisted in the military. I was born to a US service member. On the day I was born, I was a natural born citizen. The US doesn't recognize dual citizenship. Maybe you should talk to someone in Consular Affairs at "pick an Embassy". But I think you've convinced anyone who reads your posts already knows you can't be convinced you are dead wrong.Lunarmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14242955702244677147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-56799919281818980942016-01-18T22:29:26.461-05:002016-01-18T22:29:26.461-05:00I would agree w/ Bobbi that the citizenship thing ...I would agree w/ Bobbi that the citizenship thing was a bizarre, politically stupid, move. He should have either given it up *years* ago, or he should have just brazened it out--as Bobbi is pointing out, that is blood in the water. All Trump's team really needs to do is run an ad in Iowa saying "up until a few months ago, Ted Cruz was every bit as Canadian as he is American" then run a series of factoids about Canada: socialized medicine; their dollar is on a Zimbabwe track; the liberal party is the "natural party" of Canada; Justin Trudeau basically lying down and taking it from ISIS, etc. One that association is made--and love him or hate him, Trump is good at sticking labels on people--he's finished. (And even if it doesn't kill him, this Canadian thing is going to dog him every bit as badly as Obama's own saga with this sort of thing.)<br /><br />(I'm not throwing in with the "birthers", this comment merely hits on the fact that Cruz has made some fantastically stupid movies, politically, for someone that's supposed to be the smartest man in DC.)ECMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00129846377634886924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-80782705475799194822016-01-18T22:18:36.172-05:002016-01-18T22:18:36.172-05:00As a Natural Born American, I have never had to re...As a Natural Born American, I have never had to renounce citizenship from another country. This is finite and evidence to any wishful documentation provided. Cruz renounced and now he's trounced.Bobbi85710https://www.blogger.com/profile/04298466832439131751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-83289228065227759932016-01-18T22:14:15.391-05:002016-01-18T22:14:15.391-05:00This can't be a serious question, can it?
He...This can't be a serious question, can it? <br /><br />He wants to win Iowa, obviously, and suck whatever momentum Cruz has out of his campaign--if Cruz can't take Iowa, he's finished, since if he can't win an Evangelical stronghold, he has basically zero chance of a. generating any real momentum, and b. winning anywhere that isn't Evangelical-friendly.<br /><br />(And based on a number of polls over the last 10-days, it's apparent the "birther" issue has real teeth, based on Cruz' fall *backwards* in Iowa polls, almost across the board.)ECMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00129846377634886924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-25728812704800030922016-01-18T22:12:06.745-05:002016-01-18T22:12:06.745-05:00The sheer level of willful ignorance displayed on ...The sheer level of willful ignorance displayed on citizenship is not just baffling, but irritating. Read this link, then come back and try to spout this nonsense. The link is to the law that was on the books when Cruz was born. It's settled law, but apparently you either haven't bothered to find out for yourself if this is the issue that others are making hay out of. So, educate and think for yourself. <br /><br />http://library.uwb.edu/static/USimmigration/66%20stat%20163.pdfLunarmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14242955702244677147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-16242637653223761262016-01-18T22:11:34.956-05:002016-01-18T22:11:34.956-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Lunarmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14242955702244677147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-16281120623224481752016-01-18T22:06:12.209-05:002016-01-18T22:06:12.209-05:00The US Constitution applies to Americans, Canadian...The US Constitution applies to Americans, Canadian law applies to Canadians and Cuban law applies to Cubans. One must broaden the mind to all pertinent facts, not pick or choose to fit the need, want or like. <br /><br />btw the rule is "parents" with an S, not a single parent... First Congress Session II, Chapter 4, Page 104 from 1790Bobbi85710https://www.blogger.com/profile/04298466832439131751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6034478.post-53932415611997716982016-01-18T21:57:48.030-05:002016-01-18T21:57:48.030-05:00Because every constitutional expert I know says th...Because every constitutional expert I know says that a child born to an American parent anywhere in the world is a natural-born citizen (i.e., does not need to be naturalized).<br /><br /><a href="http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2016/01/the-cruz-birther-bible-because-trump-is.html" rel="nofollow"><b>The list is here</b></a>.<br /><br />There is no peer-reviewed scholarly article that says otherwise, anywhere, anytime.<br /><br />If that were true, you could be a female soldier serving in Germany, give birth to a son, and that son would not be eligible to run for president.<br /><br />That seems very bizarre to me.<br /><br />directorbluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00205733284944340787noreply@blogger.com